The Chris Loves Julia Podcast w/ Preston Pugmire

Conversations about DIY, Home Design, and family. Chris Loves Julia is a DIY home design blog that started in 2008. It has since become the go to place for design and home renovation info for millions of readers. On this podcast we go behind the curtain on blogging, home renovation, and design in general and how it all relates to having a home that is "lived in" by a family.
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Feb 26, 2018

It's a hard day. But it's a good day. Today's episode of The Chris Loves Julia Podcast with Preston Pugmire will be the last of the series. Despite the million+ downloads, multiple sponsors per episode and the success stamp that most people would put on the podcast, last week, I had a major breakthrough that left me in tears. And then lead me to have a really, really difficult conversation with the team to end the podcast. We recorded our final episode less than 24 hours later, and the feelings were (and still are) very raw. That is to say, okay, I cry more and explain what led me to this unexpected decision.

The theme of the episode is fear, because it had everything to do with fear. But we touch on the scary thing that happened at our cabin, a bold decision that made our bathroom plans "click," and share some of our favorite moments from the podcast.

I know this will come as a shock to many of you, and I'm sure you will share in our sadness about it. But the time is right, and we can't wait for what's to come.  -Julia

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Feb 19, 2018

A candid discussion about the best practices when choosing paint colors. Julia reveals for the first time a huge mistake she made behind the scenes. 

Posts mentioned in this episode:

DIY Shiplap built-ins: finished and styled!

Perfectly Putty Paint


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Theme song: Headphones by Preston Pugmire

Feb 12, 2018

We interviewed four successful interior designers that are all self taught. Amber Lewis, Jenny Komenda, Shea McGee and Brian Patrick Flynn all open up about everything from their education backgrounds (in some cases, dropping out of school) to advice they would give to anyone trying to break into the field.

1. Amber Lewis | Principal at Amber Interior Design and founder and CEO of the blog, Amber Interiors. 

Based in California, but designing all over the world, Amber makes her signature casual California design look effortless, cool, cozy, eclectic and unique.

Find her (and her amazing work) at , @amberinteriors on instagram, and check out her shoppe to get her signature look in person (in Calabasas) or online here.


2. Jenny Komenda | Interior designer and the owner of Juniper Studio, Jenny's Print Shop and founder of the blog, Little Green Notebook.

Phoenix based, Jenny has been blogging about interiors since 2007! Her style is approachable, eclectic and the perfect mix of splurge pieces with budget-friendly DIY (she's the queen!) mixed in.

Find more of Jenny's work at on Instagram, and her digital print shop

3. Brian Patrick Flynn | Television producer turned interior designer. Founder of FlynnsideOut Productions, a full service production company specializing in lifestyle-related content.

Atlanta based, Brian's style can best be described as soft-masculine and characterized by a unique mix of design styles, modern and classic art, unconventional color schemes and practical budgets. The designer primarily resides in Atlanta but frequently retreats his two alternate residences, the country home in the mountains of north Georgia and a Scandinavian pied-á-terre in Reykjavik, Iceland for creative inspiration.

Find more of Brian's work on here, through his production company Flynnside Out, and on Instagram @bpatrickflynn.

4. Shea McGee | Co-Founder and Creative Director of Studio McGee and McGee & Co.

Utah based, Shea's bright and clean aesthetic has attracted a wait-list of clients and originally, no idea how to handle the workload. Studio McGee was created in a spare bedroom with lots of big ideas and no room for fabric samples and has grown into a massive empire.

Find more of Shea's work at, watch their web series here, through their McGee & Co Shop and on instagram @studiomcgee.

The 6 questions you can expect to hear answered in this episode are:

• What is your education background?

• When did you realize design was something you wanted to do professionally and how did you make that shift?

• How did you grow your business, get clients, get noticed!?

• What role does social media play in your business?

• What’s something you still want to learn?

• What advice do you have for others wanting to break into the field?

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Feb 5, 2018

Here are the four questions we answer this week:

1. I have a question about windows in the bathroom: I currently live in a row home in Philadelphia, my bathroom has two windows in it that back up to my neighbors patio and a restaurant patio. I have blinds on the two windows in my bathroom, to keep any peepers from being able to look into my bathroom but I feel like its a waste of perfectly good natural light to keep them closed all the time. My husband thinks we should put sheer curtains up and keep the blinds open to solve the peeping/natural light problem but I can't say that I've ever seen curtains in a bathroom before, what do you think we should do?


The balance of natural light and privacy is a big thing in a lot of bathrooms, so we cover a few ways to frost a window (the most affordable option--check out this film for this method!), different blind options (the easiest option, we'd recommend cellular honeycomb blinds for maximum light/privacy balance), and even high tech electrically-charged glass that frosts with the flip of a switch (arguably, the coolest option--here's a video of it in action). We also talk about mirrors in front of windows--are you for them?

2. I have a thorn in my side when it comes to organizing and designing...our "home office space" - that isn't used as a home office. We don't even use the's a dumping site for papers. It's in the corner of our bedroom :( We have one filing cabinet that is terribly ugly next to the desk that is already full. My question for y'all is if you've posted on this before? Or if you have any go-to pieces for putting "adulting stuff" when you don't have an office. I need an organized space that looks pretty since it's in my bedroom and I see it every day! Help!!! Devan 

Combination spaces can be tricky, especially in the bedroom where any horizontal surface tends to be somewhere that you lay things. But the first image (via) in this post sure sells it, right? We talk about some different approaches depending on how you use your spaces. We talk about evaluating the need for dual functionality in a room (is it being used for anything other than a dumping ground?) and how making things smaller can sometimes help in keeping them clean. Also, how we tackle the paper trail in our home!


3. Hello Chris, Julia, and Preston!I am a fairly new listener and have been binging your podcast. I have been so inspired by some of your recent episodes! You have me thinking we really can take on some DIY projects. We recently purchased our first home and have several projects we would like to tackle, but currently are working with very basic tools such as screwdrivers, a drill, etc. What tools do you feel are most useful and are must-haves for someone who is just starting to build their tool arsenal? 

Thanks guys, love the podcast!


Here's the room that we refer to when we talk about winning the contest that allowed us to buy our first set of tools.


4. Where did you get your upholstered, low-profile box spring mattress?

We shared a picture of our bedroom here, and had a lot of questions about our box spring, because it looks very low-profile. It’s actually the Sleep Number base for our mattress, and not fully low-profile. BUT we actually do have a low-profile, upholstered box spring in our guest room.

This episode is sponsored by Brooklinen
They sent us their Luxe Hardcore Sheet Bundle with a Window Pane Sheet and their Bedford Smoke Stripe Duvet cover back in April and we could not be happier. Our listeners get $20 off PLUS Free Shipping with code CLJ at checkout!

Jan 29, 2018

In this episode, we peel back the curtain on a few projects happening around here. What you see are the photos, but there is always more uncertainty and conversations about nearly every decision. We take you through conversations around 2 projects we're knee deep in (our bedroom and bathroom) and how we come to conclusions as a couple. We also answer the question, "What is your process for renovating a room?" And! Talk about how we sometimes feel we have unintentionally betrayed our readers.

In the first few minutes, we talk about how our bedroom is coming together. Side note: Do you say "make the bed?" or "fix the bed?" Either way, we get into it about throw pillows and this scene comes up.

We share what intimidates us, big, normal house projects that we still haven't learned how to do and the secret we've been keeping: we don't know how to do everything. And that's okay!

What's Your Process For Renovating a Room?

  1. Live in a space long enough to decide your feelings about it and discover pain points.
  2. Make a wish list—things you want from the room, how you want to use the room, how you want the room to feel.
  3. Gather inspiration photos.
  4. Make floor plan renderings and layout options. 
  5. Make a mood board to see how all the elements will work together.
  6. Order products
    • If I can help it, I don’t order everything at once. I like things to arrive and then I can course correct if needed. Sometimes we have to order it all and then I can return something if it's not going to work.
  7. Make a timeline for getting it done.

Can't Get You Outta My Mind

Preston has Beef Jerky on his mind. Specifically this brand

I recently watched this YouTube video that changed my perspective on motivation. (bottom line: it sucks) In turn, I've been able to get up early every morning since and hit the gym. I hired a trainer to write a program for me so I have direction and use the JEFIT app, which shows how to do every exercise and work every machine out there, so I'm no longer intimidated to go to the gym. 

Chris has always been passionate about cooking and although he doesn't share much here anymore, he got this chest harness that holds his phone so he can record while he cooks! He's been sharing a lot of our meals and his recipes on his Instagram--@c_marcum. 


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Jan 22, 2018

Here are the four questions we tackled this week:

1. How to balance over-improving your home for someone else and making it perfect for you.

Jen largely answers her own question, but we chime in with some examples from our own home. Sometimes the value is enough for you that it's worth the money, and sometimes you can get the same value for spending less. What we did with our kitchen ranges is a good example.

2. How to choose and display art in your home.

We give a lot of tips and talk about the various ways we display art in our home, as well as how to make differing display options feel cohesive and not combative. 
3. How to fix lines on a wall from painted stripes
There's going to be a lot of people dealing with this issue in the coming years, because about ten years ago, stripes were the rage. We talk about a couple of options, but unfortunately none of them are super convenient. But worth it, to get rid of the stripes.
4. How to handle a living space that is two stories high
This can be a tricky one, but there are things you can do to make two-story living spaces feel less empty, particularly on the walls. We talk about curtains, local theaters and millwork trim.
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Jan 15, 2018

We start this episode with a small recap of our time in Seattle visiting the HGTV dream home and then describe where and what our dream homes would be! They might surprise you!

Then we dive into a new segment, that we eventually decide to call "Cabin Log" (although Cabin of Green Gables was a close second! Ha!) where we're telling a few more nitty gritty details of our adventures in renovating our new-to-us A-frame. While we love our cabin, it's hasn't all been views and a walk in the park. This week's log story includes a whole lotta snow and a very expensive lesson.

For the main segment, we go through House Beautiful's 16 Decor Trends that are Going to Be Hot for 2018 and weigh in on each.

• Chris raps about the tone on tone trend.

• And although House Beautiful is telling us to go moodier (compared to what?!), there's a big change we're making in our house that goes in the opposite direction!

• And then, yeah, I mispronounce agate over and over and over. (I now realize, I was thinking of the word agave!) Here's the link to Sarah Sherman Samuel's Wallpaper line.

• Also, my 2018 goal to convert Preston to beige--who do I need to add to the list?


Can't Get You Outta My Mind

Preston talks about launching his own personal development podcast, Next Level Life, last week and how he worked so hard to make it the number 1 podcast in his category--a goal he totally nailed!

Chris declares his love for Inca Corn. (I filled his stocking with these, and he ate them all in less than a week!)

I share a toy that we gifted to our daughter and nephew (both 7) that has helped so much with their anxiety, especially at bedtime. It's called a Worry Eater and I couldn't recommend it enough!

This Episode is Sponsored by:

Blue Apron
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Jan 8, 2018

While our podcast usually airs every other Monday, this year, we are adding a special Q&A episode on the former off weeks--we're calling...waiting for it...CLJ Q&A! It rhymes. These episodes are shorter (we're shooting for under 30 minutes) and still have all the same fun and banter, but we answer YOUR questions! Although these are specific questions that come from real listeners, they are either questions we get a lot or we think can be applicable to many homes and situations. If you have a question you'd like us to answer, you can send it to

Topics this week:

1. How to add detail and interest to a blank slate.

2. What to do when you have competing focal points.

3. Some things you can do to temporarily renovate your kitchen, or tips to make it look a lot better until your big reno!

4. Tips for mixing wood types and stains.